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Post by Major on Nov 30, 2011 3:31:59 GMT -5
General thread for pointing out problems.
Such as Spiritually Augmented Attack. You can only spend your level in SEP per round. Compare that to the chart and its the worst feat ever.
Expended Damage Added 2 +1d6 5 +2d6 9 +3d6 13 +4d6 17 +5d6 50 +(level)d6
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Post by blackestofmages on Nov 30, 2011 3:54:05 GMT -5
ah, true... that is a good point. again, differing dates for differing effects. that feat predates the time we noticed that without a limit a kido user is going to burn their entire SEP collection in one firestorm of quickened spells T's game has got you very energetic, hasn't you
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Post by Major on Nov 30, 2011 5:00:00 GMT -5
I still say let them burn it. If someone wants to go nova and run out of power and be useless the rest of the day why not let them?
But whatever.
You could also just say "This effect ignores the normal limit to SEP"
Or just add "Max your level SEP" to kido or other things.
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Post by blackestofmages on Nov 30, 2011 5:02:19 GMT -5
because currently you recover SEP like power points, there are players out there who will activley refuse to do anything until they have their sep back if you stop that, we're working on making them not useless with none because you moaned about needing it, and that trivilisez imporant fights back into "the wizard's turn has come around. lets pack up"
so in short, no.
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Post by Major on Nov 30, 2011 5:05:47 GMT -5
If someone can't handle their resources they have no right to bitch. That's like me taking my entire paycheck and going to the casino and blowing it all at once then complaining because I didn't get enough money to have dinner and trying to demand that my boss pays me more.
You know what he'd tell me? Sucks to be you. Learn to save your money.
If the person refuses to do anything then guess that sucks.
If a shinigami used all his energy to blast the hollow grunts the arrancar wouldn't just let him walk away and go home when he runs out of energy... The problem isn't players spending SEP, it's DMs feeling sorry for stupid wizards and letting them blow everything then nap while the bad guys ignore them.
But nonetheless, like I said an easy fix to the feat is add an exception to SEP expending, or lower the SEP cost, or only make the SEP limit count to kido, etc.
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Post by blackestofmages on Nov 30, 2011 5:44:50 GMT -5
yeah, but real life isn't balanced in any way shape or form, nor does is make any pretence at being so will look at the feat later. trying to clear my head of sonic games...
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Post by Nerameshu on Nov 30, 2011 20:26:37 GMT -5
That feat was added when TMK and myself joined DR. It was well before the SEP limit per turn. I think the "fix" we would implement would be a static SEP cost, and a certain amount of damage added based on your level. For example, cost of 2 or 3 SEP to increase the damage by 1d4 at first level, or something like that.
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Post by thewinterking on Nov 30, 2011 21:25:53 GMT -5
hows this for it
Level Damage Added 1-7 +1d6 8-14 +2d6 15-21 +3d6 22-30 +4d6 30-40 +5d6 +10 +1d6
it costs 3 SEP to use the feat with the option to spend an additional 2 SEP to increase it to the next step. And the max # of d6 cannot exxed your HD.
So a level 20 character could spend 3 SEP to add +3d6, 5 SEP for +4d6, 7 SEP for +5d6 and so on up to 19 SEP for +11d6. Even with an improved SPE the character could not spend more SEP than it would take to get to +20d6
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Post by blackestofmages on Nov 30, 2011 21:28:28 GMT -5
that works all hail winter!
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Post by dairiuschi on Dec 7, 2011 18:41:33 GMT -5
Modsoul Combat Point(LEgs)
at 4th level they gain Leap Attack without having to meet the prerequisites but...if they don't have power attack it's useless since it only increases the extra damage provided by power attack.
I think Spring Attack makes more sense at 4th level(BAB +4 requirement, so not any sooner then a specialized fighter could get it), and then make Spring Attack into Rapid Blitz(PHB II, allowing a second attack at a -5 penalty), this means that a non hunter or supersoldier is making the second attack as if at 0 BAB though, so perhaps a different replacement could be made.
EDIT: Reiatsu Inspiration also hasn't been edited, it was a long time ago but I am relatively sure the last version of the original bleach d20 system I saw had the range at 30ft, standard for aura or inspiration-like abilities.
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Post by blackestofmages on Dec 7, 2011 18:47:43 GMT -5
there are melee fighters without power attack? I'm not writing for a scant minority and hunters still only have normal BaB, it's the marksman that has better
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Post by dairiuschi on Dec 7, 2011 18:50:13 GMT -5
I meant Marksman, my bad.
I think it's odd to give a feat that is useless without another though, for instance: I am using Legs on a Marksman(feel even sillier for missing the name), as such Leap Attack is kind of wasted..
And Spring Attack should offer Shot on the Run as an alternative, as with most of the other cases(Rapid Shot or Power Attack for Weapon COmbat Point)
Also posting this since it was edited in the last post around the time you posted
EDIT: Reiatsu Inspiration also hasn't been edited, it was a long time ago but I am relatively sure the last version of the original bleach d20 system I saw had the range at 30ft, standard for aura or inspiration-like abilities
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Post by blackestofmages on Dec 7, 2011 18:57:09 GMT -5
well, the only one that offers an alternative IS weapon, and thats for a character focusing on one specific weapon. I don't mean to be rude, but saying "I made a choice that isn't helpful for me. change it" isn't all that useful. It's like choosing the TWF combat style for a ranger and then playing a ranged fighter...
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Post by dairiuschi on Dec 7, 2011 18:59:42 GMT -5
No, in retrospect I really worded it badly, I just thought it was weird that only Weapon allows ranged focus. Mind technically but using a specific form of attack.
I understand the sentiment, I suppose I must look bad coming in and immediately making demands that were meant to be more of suggestions.
The point still stands that not all melee builds use power attack however, and as such the ability would be wasted...I guess I personally am more used to the pathfinder system as of late, which offers so much customization I almost dread building characters due to the time consuming process.
My apologies, I hope to make less of an ass of myself in the future.
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Post by blackestofmages on Dec 7, 2011 19:11:09 GMT -5
don;t forget that combat point Legs was designed for someone specifically for someone who plans to do a lot of kicking. all of the comat points where built to be used for one specific comat style whereas legs was for the ubercharger and you have 18 feets by the time you've finished your leveling. I think y then it becomes "damnit, I've ran out feats to buy and I don't suck at melee anyway, lets get power attack" hmmmm, though I suppose the feats could be in a better order (and I'm sure your DM will let you have shot on the run instead )
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