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Post by Major on Sept 15, 2011 0:21:54 GMT -5
We had a thread for Kido and Shikai, figured I'd create a general one.
Alright, question about Vizard and advanced Hollow Abilities.
Should that be once a Vizard has 12 hit die? Or is it literally they can't take advanced hollow abilities until twelve VIZARD levels?
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turalisj
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Post by turalisj on Sept 15, 2011 7:41:34 GMT -5
Once they hit 12 hit die.
- Should the PrC's of bleachd20 be adjusted to act more like normal prestige classes? Right, it's incompatible with gestalting and forces you to take shinigami classes or face losing your abilities.
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Post by blackestofmages on Sept 15, 2011 7:50:09 GMT -5
actualy, that's currently just dire reverends rule for his campaign. I like the current system, as it makes sesne that a captain would also improve as a shinigami.
though I can see reasons to change it to be kinder to quinceys/fullbringers. in that case, I'd say that captain would continue to progress in zankaputo abilities and damage, or else a captian ends up a worse shinigami than a strait shinigami - or make captain just 1 level, for the spiritual pressure and stuff.
I'd say leave that for latser, since the system works fine just now when it's not in gestalt.
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Post by Major on Sept 15, 2011 13:39:13 GMT -5
I say leave the prestige classes how they are.
Though quincy and fullbringer PrCs would be cool. Not sure what they'd be. But they'd be cool.
Also, if it is hit die reaches 12 it should probably be fixed on the wiki.
I'd fix it, but I'm not technically part of the team.
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Post by Nerameshu on Sept 15, 2011 16:51:42 GMT -5
I'll be fixing that on the Wiki shortly.
On the note of Quincy and Fullbringer PrCs, I've had a few ideas, but most of us are busy ramping up other projects. We'll be taking a look at that kind of stuff whenever we clean up a few loose ends.
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Post by Ava on Sept 15, 2011 17:32:39 GMT -5
Prestige Class suggestions are most welcome.
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Post by Dionon on Sept 15, 2011 17:43:12 GMT -5
What about a Sniper PrC for Quincy. Possible abilities could include: Trick Shots, Bonuses to Critical Damage, Bonuses to Hit after studying a target for a certain amount of time, etc.
Maybe something to do with Rosentengai (think I spelled that wrong...). Maybe make it where they can restore other people's mobility or even take control of someone with the spirit strings.
Perhaps a Ginto Master PrC that allows them access to Metamagic feats for their Ginto (whenever that comes out.)
Uh... A class that allows them to get bonuses for having an Inner Hollow, like the Vizard have, but for Quincy.
As for Fullbringers. You could always have a Captain-like class for them where they gain alot of extra Fullbringer picks.
Maybe a class that allows them to mix in Hollow DNA or something, like having Inner Hollow for fullbringers to give them bonuses
Maybe a Fullbringer PrC that allows one to steal the power of other Spiritually Awakened beings and grant that power to others. Like what Ginjou did to Ichigo and the other Fullbringers.
I dunno, I think that's all I have for ideas right now, I'll try to get my brain working later.
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Post by Ava on Sept 15, 2011 18:08:28 GMT -5
Yus.. Ginto.. This is actually causing me problems. I can't decide if they should be a class feature or items or kind of both.. Damn you, Quincy!
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Post by Nerameshu on Sept 15, 2011 19:48:46 GMT -5
You could do with the Quincy what was done with the Shinigami classes-- Make Gintou a class feature, but offer a Gintou-less option. (Dedicated Warrior, but for Quincy.)
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Post by thewinterking on Sept 17, 2011 23:52:59 GMT -5
Has any one else noticed that shinigami can be espada via visored unleashed? Espada seems like it should be arrancar only or at least hollow only.
Also, for the water type zanpakutos the illusion abilities really dont fit a water theme. I mean I know Aizen had a water zanpakuto but it seems to me that he had a water/illusion or mind type zapakuto. Shinji's zanpakuto fooled around with senses too didnt it?
And for Zanpakuto abilitites, many spells exist in 3.5 DnD and I am sure that many could be converted into Zanpakuto abilities that would be thematically appropriate.
I would love to see the bounto but they could probably be represented as shinigami with the summoning type.
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Post by arrancar0victory on Sept 18, 2011 0:38:05 GMT -5
thewinterking: Agreed, but that can be a simple ruling, ie. Prequestite: Hollow for the Espada class. Illusion is tricky...there are many ways to justify it for many types; darkness, light, mind and water just off the top of my head. Maybe break the illusion-y type powers across them all so they get different types of illusions? This is true. Maybe...but dolls don't really have a useable sealed form (unlike a shinigami's sword) and since Bounto don't really cast spells either...they all take Dedicated Warrior? Not to mention they're soul-eating abilities...They can be problematic. Even taking look at classless's take on them, they're a big challenge.
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Post by blackestofmages on Sept 18, 2011 4:38:34 GMT -5
Has any one else noticed that shinigami can be espada via visored unleashed? Espada seems like it should be arrancar only or at least hollow only. heh, that's most likely going to be changed. or left so someone can be a vizred unleased captain espada of doom erase that through from you're mind Aizen had a plot powered zankaputo, not one really classifiable. though the closest to instant hypnosis avaliable in game terms would be an illusion on all 5 senses with a rediculously high dc to resist. something that water can kinda do (save for it sucks, but nevertheless). Also, no offence, but what other role could water fit? it has water based combat, and it has mirages - making it a pure combat type would be boring as they probably will be. I'm sure Ava's said the zankaputo's will be getting some of her time me too - feel like trying you're hand at making a base class?
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Post by Nerameshu on Sept 19, 2011 17:15:00 GMT -5
I've been thinking of trying my hand at making a Bount base class. I'll be looking at ideas for it, if anyone wants to PM what they think should be included.
NOTE: Just because I'll be taking suggestions, you shouldn't count on a class any time soon. After this week, I'm not guaranteed to be online for a while.
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Post by Major on Nov 29, 2011 17:05:50 GMT -5
What about nerfing intimidate/oppression? How is that for a suggestion?
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Post by blackestofmages on Nov 29, 2011 17:37:16 GMT -5
oppression type isn't all that overpowered
or do you mean the intimidate use of it?
I suppose it is a bit much
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